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Joshua Thermon Teague
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Gilmer County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 7 years experience
(706) 276-3636 35 1st Ave
PO BOX 296
East Ellijay, GA 30539
Free ConsultationCriminal, Bankruptcy, DUI and Personal Injury
Florida Coastal School of Law
Josh has dedicated his entire adult life to the study and practice of law - he has spent the past 15 years working in a law office, studying the law, interning with 2 Judges, completing an internship program with the United States Attorneys Office, and practicing law himself. In fact, Josh met his Wife, LeeAnn, when she was working for her Grandmother, the Gilmer County Clerk of Superior Court. Josh is a native of Gilmer County, his family has ties to the community dating into the early 1800’s. After graduating Gilmer High School and Kennesaw State University with...
William Rudolph Atkinson III
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Gilmer County, GA Criminal Law Attorney
(706) 276-1327 2488 Yukon Road
Suite A
Ellijay, GA 30536
Criminal
Gilmer County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 33 years experience
(706) 692-6673 278 Dalton St
Ellijay, GA 30540
Criminal, Divorce and Family
Woodrow Wilson Col.of Law
Gilmer County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 15 years experience
(706) 698-7322 278 Dalton St
Ellijay, GA 30540
Criminal and Business
Mercer Univ-W.George L.S
Gilmer County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 45 years experience
(706) 635-4156 16 N Main St
Ellijay, GA 30540
Criminal and DUI
Cumberland L.S./Samford
Timothy Francis White
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Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 19 years experience
(770) 893-7273 P.O. Box 1855
86 Mossburg Trail
Jasper, GA 30143
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Personal Injury and Traffic Tickets
John Marshall L.S. (Atlanta)
Aggressive, detail-oriented, criminal defense, juvenile defense, traffic, and personal injury lawyer. Nineteen years of experience in north Georgia courts. No handing your case to a paralegal or associate attorney for completion. Highly competitive attorney's fees. Available seven days a week, including holidays. See my website for much more information about me and many recent, positive client reviews:
www.timwhitelaw.com
Cortney Stuart
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Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 6 years experience
(706) 253-3060 44 North Main Street
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, DUI, Divorce and Traffic Tickets
Florida Coastal School of Law
Cortney M. Stuart's legal background began with the Superior Court of Athens, Georgia, where she interned while studying as an undergraduate at the University of Georgia, from which she graduated with Bachelors in Criminal Justice, Sociology, and Political Science. She later graduated from the Florida Coastal School of Law, cum laude, receiving her Juris Doctor in May of 2011, subsequently sitting for the Georgia and Tennessee Bars in July of 2011, and being admitted to both in November of 2011. In 2012, she began her career as an associate at the Law Offices of Edwin Marger, LLC. Under Edwin Marger's...
Scott Thomas Poole
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Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 20 years experience
21 Court Street
Jasper, GA 30143
Free ConsultationCriminal
Georgia State University College of Law
I began prosecuting felony cases as an Assistant District Attorney in Cherokee County, Georgia, right out of law school. After 10 years in Cherokee County I took over as the Senior Assistant District Attorney in Pickens County, where I prosecuted for 5 years. In 2013, I transitioned into private practice and now represent people who have been charged with committing a crime. After prosecuting for 15 years, I know first-hand that not everyone who has been arrested is guilty, and I work tirelessly to protect my client's rights in court.
(678) 880-9360 211 East Main Street
Canton, GA 30114
Fannin County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 37 years experience
(352) 789-9690 383 My Mountain Rd
Morganton, GA 30560
Criminal
Stetson University College of Law
Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 39 years experience
(706) 692-3527 150 N Main St
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, Business, Divorce and Family
Woodrow Wilson Col.of Law
Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 12 years experience
(706) 235-3060 44 N Main St
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, Business, Civil Rights and DUI
Campbell University (NC)
Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 47 years experience
(706) 692-3060 44 N Main St
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, Business, DUI and Divorce
University of Miami
Fannin County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 20 years experience
(706) 258-6255 152 Josh Hall Rd
Blue Ridge, GA 30513
Criminal, DUI, Divorce and Family
Georgia State University
Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 34 years experience
(706) 692-2494 84 N Main St
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, Business, DUI and Divorce
John Marshall (Chicago)
Fannin County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 34 years experience
(706) 258-4544 990 E Main St
Blue Ridge, GA 30513
Criminal, DUI, Divorce and Family
Woodrow Wilson Col.of Law
Pickens County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 41 years experience
(706) 253-1776 44 N Main St
Jasper, GA 30143
Criminal, DUI and International
Georgetown University
William Head
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Whitfield County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 42 years experience
(844) 832-6384 215 West Gordon Street
Dalton, GA 30722
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Traffic Tickets and White Collar Crime
University System of Georgia - University of Georgia
A Board Certified DUI defense lawyer, (one of only 4 in Georgia) handling contested misdemeanor and felony DUI, vehicular homicide, serious injury by vehicle GA and other criminal defense cases for 41 years, The name "Bubba Head" is synonymous with aggressive criminal defense. Mr. Head has trained thousands of criminal defense attorneys across America. He also started the first Internet Legal Directory (www.DrunkDrivingDefense.com) for DWI-DUI defense attorneys in 1999. This original directory was designed to help consumers seeking a top-rated DUI-DWI law firm to locate that person without "taking a chance" on the quality of their legal representation. ...
(888) 384-4323 5 Concourse Pkwy
#2340
Atlanta, GA 30328
(844) 384-2622 109 Anderson Street
Ste 103
Marietta, GA 30060
(844) 285-2889 1001 Cambridge Square
Ste D
Alpharetta, GA 30009
(877) 384-4323 6340 Sugarloaf Parkway
Ste 200
Duluth, GA 30097
(844) 529-3294 224 Clayton Street
Athens, GA 30601
Kyle E. Koester
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 7 years experience
(770) 744-5250 420 Creekstone Ridge
Woodstock, GA 30188
Free ConsultationCriminal, Domestic Violence, Insurance Claims and Personal Injury
Western Michigan University Cooley Law School
Kyle Koester is an highly reviewed and experienced Cherokee County GA attorney. He has successfully handled difficult personal injury and criminal defense cases. Kyle's clients appreciate his personal approach to helping with their individual needs. Kyle's firm works closely with top experts and other attorneys from across the country to get his clients get the best results. Whether you have been hurt in an accident or are facing criminal charges, Kyle Koester has the necessary knowledge and skill to achieve the best resolution possible in your case.

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P. Justin Thrailkill
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Cobb County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 8 years experience
(770) 461-2025 125 Townpark Drive
#300
Kennesaw, GA 30144
Free ConsultationCriminal, Divorce, Family and Juvenile
Cumberland School of Law, Samford University
Justin devotes his practice primarily to the areas of divorce, custody, and parental advocacy in DFCS matters. As an advocate for the rights of parents, Justin has realized his lifelong passion for helping others in their time of need. Through seven years of practice, Justin has represented a variety of clients in various matters throughout our legal system. He finds great satisfaction in seeing his client’s cases through to a successful resolution, regardless of the challenges that may exist with any particular case. Among his peers, Justin is well known to be a compassionate advocate for...
(770) 461-2025 465 N. Jeff Davis Dr.
Fayetteville, GA 30214
Mr. Vic Wiegand Esq.
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Forsyth County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 21 years experience
(770) 886-4646 327 Dahlonega St
Suite 1600
Cumming, GA 30040
Free ConsultationCriminal, Appeals, DUI and White Collar Crime
Western Michigan University Cooley Law School
Sadeer Sabbak
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(404) 793-7773 1875 Old Alabama Rd.
Suite 760
Roswell, GA 30076
Free ConsultationFulton County, GA Criminal Law Attorney
Criminal, DUI, Traffic Tickets and White Collar Crime
New England Law | Boston
Sadeer Sabbak is a trial lawyer, who specializes in criminal defense and DUI defense. In Georgia, Sabbak is known for being an aggressive criminal defense attorney that zealously advocates for the rights of his clients. Mr. Sabbak has been named one of the Top 40 Under 40 Criminal Defense Attorneys in the State of Georgia by the National Trial Lawyers Association. He has handled many complex criminal cases and has obtained “Not Guilty” verdicts in cases involving murder, drug crimes, sex offenses, and DUIs. Sabbak has also secured numerous dismissals and reductions in charges, from serious felonies to minor offenses.
(404) 793-7773 1201 Peachtree Street NE
Building 400, Suite 200
Atlanta, GA 30361
Caryn S. Fennell
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 7 years experience
(770) 479-0248 2230 Towne Lake Parkway
Building 600, Suite 140
Woodstock, GA 30189
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Divorce and Family
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
I have over twenty-three years of professional and executive experience, including service in the United States Army. I also have and twenty-four years of education, including studies in my Associates Degree, Bachelor of Arts, Master of Arts, Industrial/Organizational Ph.D. Program and in my Juris Doctor Program. I own and manage the law offices of Caryn S. Fennell & Associates which I opened on November 9, 2010, the same day I swore into the Bar Association and the Georgia Courts. Since opening my firm, I have closed over 850 family and criminal law cases. I specialize in complex custody matters, and...
AJ Richman
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Lumpkin County, GA Criminal Law Attorney
(678) 935-6268 35 North Chestatee Street
Dahlonega, GA 30533
Free ConsultationCriminal and DUI
Florida State University College of Law
As a member of the Georgia Bar, AJ Richman has handled thousands of cases including DUI, BUI, underage drinking, drugs, domestic violence, and probation violations. Mr. Richman’s high courtroom success is attributed to his in-depth knowledge of the law and exhaustive approach to investigating cases. Prior to representing those accused of committing crimes, Mr. Richman was a felony and misdemeanor prosecutor for the State of Georgia. With a certification in Standardized Field Sobriety Testing and DUI detection from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), while working for the State, Mr. Richman was chosen to instruct Forsyth and Lumpkin County police...
(678) 829-2826 6474 Georgia Highway 400
Cumming, GA 30028
Anthony Joseph Morgese
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 21 years experience
(770) 517-6711 3233 S Cherokee Ln
Building 1000
Woodstock, GA 30188
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Traffic Tickets and White Collar Crime
John Marshall L.S. (Atlanta)
Anthony Morgese has been in practice for 22 years. He is also a Georgia licensed private investigator, and has been so licensed over 25 years. Anthony practices in the areas of criminal law; personal injury; and, contracts. He is admitted before the State and Superior Courts of Georgia; Georgia Court of Appeals; the Georgia Supreme Court, and the Federal Court in Georgia. Anthony has zealously defended numerous individuals in the areas of Drug Possession and Trafficking; Theft Crimes; Rape, Molestation, Sex Crimes; Computer Pornography; Fraud, Forgery and Embezzlement; Family Violence, Assault and Battery; Probation...
Janice Fabiana Alfred
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Cobb County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 13 years experience
(404) 494-0027 2440 Sandy Plains Road
Building 28, Suite 100
Marietta, GA 30066
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Divorce and Traffic Tickets
New York Law School
Ms. Alfred obtained her Bachelor of Arts degree from Hamilton College located in Clinton, NY in 1998. After taking two years off to work at a large law firm in New York City, she enrolled at the New York Law School in 2000. In 2002, Ms. Alfred became an editor of the New York Law School Journal of Human Rights and published a note titled "Denial of the American Dream: The Plight of Undocumented High School Students Within the U.S. Educational System" and an article titled "The 4th Session of the Commission on the Status of Women: Gender Discrimination...
(404) 494-0027 5555 Glenridge Connector
Suite 200
Atlanta, GA 30342
Richard S. Lawson
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Lumpkin County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 22 years experience
(770) 641-0100 487 Morrison Moore Pkwy
Dahlonega, GA 30533
Criminal and DUI
Emory University School of Law and Wayne State University Law School
Atlanta DUI Attorney Richard S. Lawson has dedicated his professional career to protecting the rights, freedoms, and futures of individuals charged with driving under the influence (DUI). With nearly two decades of experience, Mr. Lawson is capable of handling the full range of DUI charges, including challenging allegations involving multiple DUIs, felony DUIs, and underage DUIs. His insight as a former DUI prosecutor allows him to understand the “other side,” and has proven to be a driving force behind his ability to resolve nearly 5,000 DUI cases. If you or your loved one is charged with a DUI in Atlanta...
(404) 816-4440 4060 Peachtree Road
Suite D 415
Atlanta, GA 30319
(404) 816-4440 300 Colonial Center Parkway
Suite 100
Roswell, GA 30076
(404) 816-4440 1827 Powers Ferry Road SE
Marietta, GA 30339
(770) 641-0100 1755 North Brown Road
Suite 200
Lawrenceville, GA 30043
(770) 536-3732 131 Prominence Court
Suite 110
Dawsonville, GA 30534
William S. Hardman Jr.
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(770) 530-1164 P. O. Box 438
Gainesville, GA 30503
Free ConsultationHall County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 4 years experience
Criminal, DUI, Personal Injury and Traffic Tickets
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
Bill Hardman is a trial lawyer and founder at William S. Hardman, Jr., P.C. He represents clients across the State of Georgia who have been accused of DUI, drug possession, probation revocation and traffic offenses. His primary focus is representing clients charged with DUI. Bill has been a member of the Georgia Association of Criminal Defense lawyers since 2013. He has also been a member of the National College of DUI Defense since 2014. In 2014, he was selected to attend and completed the Bill Daniel Trial Advocacy Program under the direction of some of the...
(770) 530-1164 210 Washington Street, N.W.
Suite 104
Gainesville, GA 30501
Thomas C. Rowsey
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Fulton County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 27 years experience
(770) 993-5317 295 W Crossville Rd
Bldg 100, #110
Roswell, GA 30075
Criminal, DUI, Divorce and White Collar Crime
The University of Georgia School of Law
Mr. Rowsey’s practice focuses on family law, divorce, criminal defense and personal injury law. With over 25 years of experience serving clients in Georgia, his ability to successfully handle various legal matters has earned him an AV® Preeminent rating from Martindale-Hubbell. This is the highest rating conferred by this nationally recognized and respected directory of lawyers and law firms, and is based upon direct feedback from legal professionals. His recognition not only reflects competence with regard to astute legal skills, but also speaks to his client communication and ethical standards as well.
Jerry Lee
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White County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 40 years experience
(706) 219-2460 190 Whisperwood Way
Cleveland, GA 30528-7526
Criminal, Business and Divorce
Woodrow Wilson Col.of Law and Harvard Law School
Lindsay Reese
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Fulton County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 10 years experience
(678) 296-0590 2500 Northwinds Parkway, Suite 330
Alpharetta, GA 30009
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Divorce and Traffic Tickets
Georgia State University College of Law
Attorney Lindsay Reese graduated cum laude from Georgia State University College of Law in 2007. While in law school, Ms. Reese was a member of several prestigious organizations including Moot Court and International Moot Court where she competed in several competitions. After graduation, Ms. Reese joined the Dekalb County Public Defender's Office where she rose through the ranks until she was handling felony matters. Ms. Reese has had numerous trials and has has a winning courtroom record. In 2013, Ms. Reese started her own law firm, primarily concentrating on traffic and criminal defense matters. Since...
Olga Izmaylova
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(404) 793-7773 1875 Old Alabama Road
Suite 760
Roswell, GA 30076
Free ConsultationFulton County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 5 years experience
Criminal, DUI, Domestic Violence and Traffic Tickets
University of Miami School of Law
I specialize in criminal defense. I have never practiced any other type of law and, honestly, I don’t think I ever will. My mom always tells me that ever since I was young, I hated seeing anyone being picked on and I would immediately jump to their defense. My disdain for bullies has turned into my passion for protecting people’s rights and fighting for justice. Regardless of guilt or innocence, in my opinion, each person deserves to be treated with decency and respect. Nothing is more upsetting to me than watching prosecutors take advantage of vulnerable people. Which is why...
(404) 793-7773 1201 Peachtree Street NE
Building 400, Suite 200
Atlanta, GA 30361
Jason R Carnell
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Gwinnett County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 8 years experience
(770) 322-4990 4989 Peachtree Parkway, Ste 200
Peachtree Corners, GA 30092
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Personal Injury and Traffic Tickets
Georgia State University College of Law
Jason Carnell's higher education began at the University of Central Florida in Orlando. While there, Jason majored in History and graduated Magna Cum Laude. Jason also minored in Aerospace Studies upon joining UCF's Air Force ROTC Detatchment. After completing his Reserve Officer Field Training at Barksdale Air Force Base, in Shreveport, LA, Jason commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the United States Air Force on May 5th, of 2000. Jason spent 4 1/2 years on active duty, mostly in the Florida panhandle. He was ultimately promoted to the rank of Captain. Just prior to his Honorable Discharge, Jason...
David McLeod
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Hall County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 27 years experience
(770) 536-0202 200 West Academy St. NW
Gainesville, GA 30501
Criminal, Business, Divorce and Family
Georgia State University
McLeod Law Firm, P.C. provides quality legal representation for its clients across North Georgia. Our lawyers provide legal services for the following types of cases: personal injury, divorce, family law, criminal law, and business law. We pledge to always keep our clients fully informed, to work efficiently, and to promptly respond to our clients' needs. We continually update our practice to incorporate the most appropriate communication, technological, and legal advances in an effort to better serve our clients. We are located in historical downtown Gainesville, Georgia.
Mr. Eric A. Ballinger
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 25 years experience
(770) 479-2020 151 West Main Street
Suite 302
Canton, GA 30114
Criminal, DUI, Divorce and Family
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School and Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
Prior to attending law school, I served in the United States Army as an Infantry Officer. I served as a Rifle Platoon Leader, Mortar Platoon Leader, Instructor, Battalion Staff Officer and an Infantry Rifle Company Commander. I began practicing law in Canton, Georgia in 1993. After obtaining a Master of Laws concentrating in litigation, I logged several thousand hours in the courtroom developing a practice in domestic relations, criminal law and commercial litigation. In 2007 I was certified as a mediator, using my years of courtroom experience coupled with alternative dispute resolution training to help people resolve...
Diana Whipkey Young
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Cobb County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 35 years experience
(770) 795-9596 800 Kennesaw Ave NW
Marietta, GA 30060
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI, Divorce and Family
The University of Georgia School of Law and The University of Georgia School of Law
Diana Whipkey Young is a lifelong resident of Marietta, where she has been passionately practicing law since 1983 and has earned the respect of judges and fellow attorneys. Ms. Young developed a solid foundation in the courtroom when she began her career as a prosecutor in the Cobb County Solicitor’s Office. During this time, she gained valuable insight into the courtroom process. Accordingly, Ms. Young’s ability to offer a prosecutor’s perspective compliments her legal knowledge and enhances her understanding of criminal law and how to effectively advocate on her client’s behalf. Diana Whipkey Young’s decades...
Ross Grisham
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 18 years experience
(678) 880-9360 211 East Main Street, Suite 100
Canton, GA 30114
Free ConsultationCriminal, DUI and White Collar Crime
University of Wyoming College of Law
Partner, Grisham & Poole, P.C. Serving Cherokke County, Pickens County, North Georgia and Metro Atlanta Criminal Defense Attorney Former Assistant District Attorney Former Assistant Solicitor General
Jeffrey Mark Heller
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Cherokee County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 31 years experience
(770) 345-1130 151 W. Main Street
#304
Canton, GA 30114
Free ConsultationCriminal, Bankruptcy and Social Security Disability
Memphis State University
Ms. Bonnie Lowe Jones
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Dawson County, GA Criminal Law Attorney with 17 years experience
Post Office Box 767
Dawsonville, GA 30534
Free ConsultationCriminal, Business, Medical Malpractice and Nursing Home
Tulane University
Jones Law, LLC is a full-service law firm specializing in civil litigation and criminal defense. Clients from the greater Atlanta and North Georgia areas are welcome! Please feel free to contact us with any questions. You may reach us by telephone at (678) 947-4687 or by e-mail at info@JonesLawLLC.com. The following is a listing of the firm's typical areas of practice and may not necessarily include every type of law we handle. Please contact us with any inquiries or for additional information. Personal Injury Claims: Automobile Accidents; Premise Liability; Product Liability; Medical Malpractice; Wrongful Death Family...
(678) 947-4687 169 Highway 9 S, Suite 110
Dawsonville, GA 30534
(678) 947-4687 Cumming, GA 30040
Melanie Ellwanger
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Fulton County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 10 years experience
(404) 803-3105 205 Norcross St.
Roswell, GA 30075
Free ConsultationCriminal and DUI
University of Arkansas School of Law
Melanie is a results-driven DUI and criminal defense attorney. Her unique experience as a prosecutor, defense attorney and judicial candidate have provided her the knowledge and insight to contest her clients’ cases aggressively.
While in private practice, she is honored to have been recognized by her peers as a Super Lawyers’ Rising Star, one of the legal profession’s top achievements. By anonymous votes of Georgia lawyers, she was recognized for her legal work in the 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 editions of Georgia Super Lawyers magazine. The Rising Star award is reserved for attorneys under the age of...
Kelly Case
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Fulton County, GA Criminal Law Lawyer with 27 years experience
(866) 822-7352 13010 Morris Road
6th Floor, BLDG I
Alpharetta, GA 30004
Criminal, DUI, Family and Personal Injury
I am the former Judge of the 9th Judicial District Court. While serving as Judge, I presided over numerous, large, complex civil and criminal trials. Before taking the bench in 2013, I was a prolific trial attorney. I am a Board Certified Criminal Lawyer with over 2 decades experience in winning trials and I am focused on the best possible outcome for my clients. I have represented numerous people especially those holding professional licenses such as pilots, physicians and lawyers. As a former prosecutor, I have been on both sides of the table and know what it takes to negotiate...